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#1 M Needforspeed

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 06:56 AM

The Capolavoro Spa 1967 in all its grandness will come soon to the starting grid for a well deserved release at SRMZ.

But how was it appreciated in RL ?


a few years back, I began hunting all possible period mags and book related to "THE" grand Prix Legends mythic year : 1967

All those upload will be redundant .. but each of them can have a point of interest

hope you 'll enjoy,as collecting stamps. Or simply consider them as the collection of a perverse uploader !

Stefan, you' ll have to select through those reports :book: Good luck !


  today, those in German :

AUTOMOBILSPORT  : was a confidential monthly mag, with a very poor pics content.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 06:58 AM

AUTO MOTOR UND SPORT, a twice monthly famous mag

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 07:02 AM

POWERSLIDE, a swiss monthly mag.The chief editor, Rico Steinemann, was a Porsche 906 driver , then the Porsche racing team manager
Neat, solid, and straight to the point infos, with  a BW centerfold.Rare at that time !

Still hunting the very sought after RALLYE RACING and the MOTOR RUNDSCHAU

MOTOR REVUE was a German mag luxurious trimestrial.But it didn't contain reports on F1 races.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 07:06 AM

from a german book annual, GRAND PRIX 1967, reviewing the F 1  season.By Ulrich Schwab.pics by him.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 07:16 AM

View PostStefan Roess, on 19 November 2014 - 02:30 AM, said:

View PostM Needforspeed, on 18 November 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

Stefan, you' ll have to select through those reports :book: Good luck !

Great! Thx!
Hm, I would take them all. :)
Can we put them all on the Spa67 website? Can we get in trouble with copyrights?

Please, do, Stefan.

The travel through the world of spa 67 reports follows with Italian mags.

Don't know so much about  copyrights infringements. But it is not released on a wide scale , and they are quite historic archives, now.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 07:19 AM

AUTO ITALIANA was a weekly mag, With lots of pages, detailed infos and in depth inputs . One of the most complete of all the motor racing mag at that time . Had a large format.

Sadly, the mag ceased his publication in 1969, putting a mark to the end of an era.

Bruno Nestola was covering the Grand Prix, and many time, was the photographer.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 07:27 AM

QUATTRORUOTTE was not so much motor racing oriented, rather for the average automobilist . Monthly and I think it still exist.
They translated the report from Belgian correspondant , the well known Paul Frère.At least, we have a racing driver view.

I don't have the weekly AUTOSPRINT ( very hard to find on newspaper format, for the first part of the year 1967 ) and another italian weekly, MOTOR for Spa 67.

There where two others italian monthly mag in the sixties, AUTOMOBILE and AUTOMONDO, but I don't have their issues covering Spa. Still searching !

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 07:29 AM

View Postgliebzeit, on 19 November 2014 - 02:48 PM, said:

Thank you very much for these informative articles and photos, Michel....!!!   I really love the photo of Scarfiotti with his tongue sticking out as he rounds a right-hand bend.  :)

BTW, have a closer look at the annotation to this photo.  ;)

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 07:34 AM

found some mags, from what was then the very faraway Australia : the monthly SPORTS CAR WORLD and RACING CAR NEWS .They worked with local correspondants ! Not much more emphasis on Jack Brabham than for any other F1 racer .
Searching for some SCW, but was less racing oriented than RCN.

  the latter report on Spa .

it is incredible how a so under populated beautiful country, invested in racing tracks . By 1967, more than fifteen permanent tracks ! With races quite everyweek

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 07:38 AM

Greg,

Sherlock Holmes is at work, I see .

Gianfranco ? :think:
oh, sorry ... Spinning.Really ? tell us more




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Posted 20 November 2014 - 07:41 AM

British motor racing followers where very lucky to have various annual motor racing publications for every budget . One of them was MOTOR RACING YEAR, the work of the British Racing Sport Car Club. England is the core nation for Motor Sport, isn it ?

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 07:47 AM

View PostPhil, on 19 November 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

Wow these are gold dust Michel, many thanks!  The "Spa Without Water" headline is a nice answer to the recent demands for rain in spa67  :)


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 07:56 AM

good idea, Phil .I 'll post the first page at SRMZ

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 08:51 AM

AUTOCOURSE annual, was an alternative to the AUTOMOBILE YEAR.
for such huge book, the reports for each F1 race, where rather shorts.

This David Phipps publication had an interesting feature I have not seen elsewhere :

   - he published the raceday laps after laps times for all the drivers !

conclusion : yes, we need a new Gpl67.exe, simply because if we tweaked the AIs laps time to match more with RL, we wld need a slower exe for each of the seven slots.With the original .exe, even the average  simracer with the BRM, wld left all the AIs far behind.

Presently,the gplf267.exe wld be more suited to race the F1 AIs.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 09:14 AM

another British annual : Lou Stanley published his views on the F1 season in his book : GRAND PRIX THE 1967 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP.There wa sinteresting portraits of all the drivers in those books.

Then on the BRM staff, he portrayed with his camera all the people around the grand prix scene.  

this one, I remember to have got it from Nils Ruwisch, then better known as Jo Lafrite.After all the GPLEA 1967 F1 cars had been completed, Nils sold all the doc he collected at Racesim Central.Where are you Nils ?

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 09:19 AM

Thanks to the team, we have the VW Combi parked at Stavelot.It brought back the poor Michael Parkes to the helicopter .

The same Lou Stanley backed financialy the Grand Prix Medical Service truck to improve safety. He must have been shocked that this device wasn't used for Parkes .

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 12:37 PM

This race is missing from my R&T collection. I aim to buy the issues that my dad had, that over the years became lost. This is next on my list. :)

Here is an article on the winning car.
http://gplr.srmz.net...?showtopic=3441

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 04:20 PM

As far as the BRM's go, it's Stewart in the Owen BRM P83 with yellow nose, Spence in the BRM P83 with red nose (see Powerslide mag), Irwin in a BRM P261, red nose?

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 05:07 PM

yes, red.other than that,Parnell car had the same skin as the works cars

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 05:14 PM

View Postdavef, on 20 November 2014 - 12:37 PM, said:

This race is missing from my R&T collection. I aim to buy the issues that my dad had, that over the years became lost. This is next on my list. :)

Here is an article on the winning car.
http://gplr.srmz.net...?showtopic=3441

hello Dave,

I wanted to ask you at SRMZ, as you uploaded many Road and Track.It can be easily found on Ebay, I am afraid I haven't the issue covering the Belgian GP.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 05:16 PM

Michael Frostick wrote a special book covering the 1966/67 GP seasons, called  "RETURN TO POWER"

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 04:05 AM

I think I shouldn`t get into copyright trouble, as they are old magazines.
Tommie, could you pls put them online at the spa67 website? It would be nice if they would all be visible (if possible) instead of putting them all in one zip folder.

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 12:46 PM

Stefan,

I share your will to put on the website. But I wonder how many pages it will fulfill ?  After all, readers will have the time to look at it slowly, knowing they can come back when they get some free time.  

Hope that is not too much a work for you, Tommie .If I cld help ? Without the Website management tool installed on my PC, is it possible, as you are very busy elsewhere ?

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 01:51 PM

Ami Guichard from Switzerland published L' ANNEE AUTOMOBILE /  AUTOMOBILE YEAR, the most famous yearbook.Was an expensive Christmas gift, in the sixties.
I like the shot of Jackie Stewart

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 04:32 PM

AUTOSPORT,the weekly british mag for motor racing enthusiasts.His founder,Gregor Grant covered the Grand Prix events.

It came close to AUTO ITALIANA seen above, for the detailed coverage and picking good paddock infos for the Grand Prix.

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